julian-sefton-green-learning-out-school-contexts-education-non-formal-settings
http://www.julianseftongreen.net/
working with sonya livinstone
http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/learning-not-school
organized - funded - out of school places... not mandated...
In the Hangout (l to r): Andres Lombana, Craig Watkins, Jen Vadeboncoeur, Julian Sefton-Green, Kylie Peppler, Lissa Soep
n the Hangout today:
- Julian Sefton-Green - Guest Speaker - http://www.julianseftongreen.net
- Craig Watkins - Moderator/Host - @scraigwatkins
- Jennifer Vadeboncoeur - http://ecps.educ.ubc.ca/hdlc/jennifer-vadeboncoeur-phd
- Lissa Soep - @lissasoep of @youthradio
- Kylie Peppler - @DrPeppler
- Andres Lombana Bermudez - @vVvA
group doc
photography and video allowing us to see more of learning..
ie: like web is teaching us we're more about network than pyramid
the more institutions look at out of school learning - the less interesting out of school might get
-The more society invests in out-of-school centers as a way of making up for regular schooling, the higher the risk that out-of-school learning loses it’s purpose
the danger of formalizing the informal
the thinking we need to measure/manage - is that what messes with the original function of informal learning?
Comments
1. Context - where does the learning take place?
2. Learners - how do learners set the agenda around their interests, and develop socially?
3. Knowledge - what knowledge is explored in these spaces?
Julian's "Learning at Not School" Report: http://dmlhub.net/publications/learning-not-school
wow - are we doubling the risk in thinking out of school can make up for failure in reg school
Closing Remarks
-More research needed to assess the value of out-of-school centers
-What’s at stake for societies that want to invest in these centers? Are our expectations too high for these centers? Are we doubling the risk in trying to make out-of-school compensate for the failures/challenges of school itself?
are we wanting to create a means toward jobs like we have today - that many people aren't happy in, or do we want to be about facilitating artists.. who have found the thing they can't not do..
Quotes
"We need a more consistent, long-term view of the achievements of [out-of-school learning spaces]." - Julian
monk51295: understanding learning.. or understanding what matters
monk51295: are we wanting to create a means toward jobs like we have today - that many people aren't happy in, or do we want to be about facilitating artists.. who have found the thing they can't not do..
jgmac1106: Nice Monk
anterobot: seems like not-school learning is often product-driven (vs. standards-driven). There is still a layer of labor that needs to be made transparent to help guide young people.
monk51295: everyone could have access - if we called it our public ed
anterobot: in this sense, not-school work and engagement is still "work."
monk51295: we have all we need to make scaling the individual equitable
