dave cormier

on rhizomatic learning with jeff lebow


via siemens.. rhizome has the same dna.. so stays within itself

so then - extending the  metaphor beyond that..
it's not about content..
the nomad takes up that role..

then you are in a weird place where you are trying to use words for things that weren't intended.

big on no definition..
doesn't need to be broken down...
it's not really a model... or a learning theory.
i can tell you the story of what it means.. how it applies.
but not defining it and putting it in a box.
don't know how to talk about that.

it suits crazy thinkers
allow for a lot more chaos.. (sounds like mary catherine bates.. talking about throwing herself into the vulnerability of context)

we think of ed as a sanitary process. when looking at theory.
but realistically - the rest of the world isn't like that at all

so much of what the process is about is about transparency...

connection between nomads.. a guild type process... the other - a more community model

hmm. interesting.. "if you're going to have a course... stay within the garden"
appreciative inquiry - a way of doing strategic planning

otherwise - it's just a coffe shop convo.. or the internet.
this really works.. so how do i get it to work on purpose

talk about syllabi and not curriculum (wesch? editable)

keep assignments vague. but structure is not?

oh i love it.. don't believe in facts

you black box it - but does that make them true?
more like handy short hands to allow us to talk about things

why lie and then unlie through the process

no need to nail things down and make them true.. proof helps to steep up power..

[this is all me trying to capture what he's saying.. not necessarily what he's meaning.. ]

findable - you already know what it is
discoverable - flip through and find things you didn't know existed

we think of things as facts in order to get permission to do things.
do everything the same.. just that the right answer is never there, nothing is ever true.. it's always changing/becoming

better at making decisions.. really making connections faster
weighing all things available and finding a pattern, a way.
but don't see the world that way. life is messy. not concrete.

evidence is good.. but none of those pieces of evidence leads to things that are true, real.
the usage of any word you use.. are built on a whole bunch of other premises

when you start trying to measure things
very useful to talk in that way - and probably things are like that..
these facts are just short forms that are useful
they are theories - the best understanding that we have of the thing right now.

look at the craziness that  happens when we claim facts..

oh wow.. at the very end by john 1:07 -
how would we make judgments..
as soon as we assume that facts are real.. we lose sense of reality.
the framework changes reality, changes truth
john - we're not going to collect facts with judgments.. people say that's risky - where are your facts..
dave - peer review, etc, process, helps to weed things out.. but it still doesn't make it true.
those systems are about controlling power.. not truth.
come out of it with - not something true - but something validated.

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